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Friday, July 22, 2005

More London Bombs, A Man Shot On The Subway

London was the victim of more terrorist bombs and a man was shot by British police. The first thing that is surprising about this story is the fact that British police had weapons with them. Most of the time, British police the street unarmed with little more then a baton to protect them.

So either this is a radical change in British police tactics (which is completely possible) or (somewhat more likely to me) the police who chased the guy after he jumped the turnstiles where not your average, garden-variety constable. Even if the cops who shot the man where regular policemen, this is (as the Brits would put it) highly unusual.

Consider these facts and draw your own conclusions:

1. British policemen are rarely, if ever, armed. This time however, they had handguns.

2. British police being armed could be placed at the foot of recent terrorist activity, but not only where the British uniformed policemen armed, the undercover policemen where armed as well*.

3. Not only where the undercover policemen armed, but they where inside the subway and they fired inside the subway as well*.

My conclusion? The Brits had something they where preparing against, a third attack maybe? In any case, its one terrorist down. To any Brit cop out there, well done and if I had a spot of tea, I'd share.

* I am not an expert on British undercover police methods. I am drawing my conclusions based on what I know or have read about British policemen, so I may be wrong.

Update [7/23/05]:

Police Say Man Gunned Down Not Tied To Bombers


LONDON, July 23 - Scotland Yard admitted Saturday that a man police officers gunned down at point-blank range in front of horrified subway passengers on Friday had nothing to do with the investigation into the bombing attacks here.

The man was identified by police as Jean Charles de Menezes, a 27-year-old Brazilian, described by officers as an electrician on his way to work. "He was not connected to incidents in central London on 21st July, 2005, in which four explosive devices were partly detonated," a police statement said.


The article mentions that the man spoke perfect English, so unless the police never said "Halt" or "Stop" why didn't he stop?

And why was he running in the London subway with a bulky jacket on in the middle of summer?

Also, why did he jump the turnstile?

Hopefully, these questions will be answered by the Scotland Yard investigation.

4 Comments:

Blogger Marc J. said...

So your arguing that he was shot for "Being Brazillian While Train Riding"?

You havn't answered my question though, he apparently spoke perfect English why didn't he stop? Why was he running in the first place? Why, after 2 well published bombings and one by suicide, would he hop the turnstile?

Many questions... no answers.

And no, I'm not convinced that he's innocent. He's guilty of stupidity at lest.

7/24/2005 3:07 PM

 
Blogger Marc J. said...

He ran because he didn't know what was happening, he thought the police where doing 'visa' checks. His was expired and was in the process of getting it re-done, but in the mean-time he was subject to getting deported. That’s why he ran...And for running he was shot. Look, I think he was shot because the cops where piss. Who wouldn’t be mad in that situation, but the shooting in no way is justified. This is what’s going to happen in mass numbers in the U.S.

What is this? He jumped a turnstile (pulling attention to himself in the process) and when he saw the cops, he started running. Why would a visa dogger call attention to himself?

7/26/2005 2:05 AM

 
Blogger Marc J. said...

Also, your right wing is pushing and saying that ‘profiling’ is need to stop these terrorist…A little fact that none has said out load…The terrorist aren’t dress in rational clothing, they dress like westerners, they eat like westerners, they TALK like westerners…In almost every way shape or form they are westerners…but also terrorist.

So your telling me you can't tell the physical difference between a white guy in a suit and an Arab guy in a suit? Your telling me you can't tell accents apart?

Yeah right.

So I’m tired of rednecks talking shit and saying all Arabs should be stop…I say check everyone, we don’t know who could be a terrorist.

Where are you suggesting we stop and check everyone at? The Metro? The entrances to D.C.? The border? Where and when?

If we attempt to check every, single, person who rides the New York Subway it might as well not ven be there. It is impossible to check every person who gets on the Metro and still be able to get people where they want to go in a timely manner.

Plus where are you going to get the man power to search every person? It is not feasible. Random screenings will catch a terrorist once in a blue moon, but if you double check every Arab looking person getting on a plane who speaks poor English, recently came from a Middle Eastern country, has multiple visa stamps from Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, or Pakistan.

If yu stop people who fall into that catagory then you will be surprised by the amount of terrorists you find.

7/26/2005 2:14 AM

 
Blogger Marc J. said...

Dummy. If where going to get attacked they are going to use 'westerners' anyone can be blinded by the fanaticism. I doubt the terrorist are going to be in turbans and reading scriptures...

Maybe they will, maybe they won't.

ANYONE CAN BE A TERROIST.

Okay... not sure how this figures in, but okay.

WHITE,

Name a white terrorist group that commited a terrorist act against the United States of America.

HISPANIC,

Name a hispanic terrorist group that commited a terrorist act against the United States of America.

BLACK

Name a black terrorist group that commited a terrorist act against the United States of America.

ASAIN,

Name a asian terrorist group that commited a terrorist act against the United States of America.

ARAB,

Name an arabic terrorist group that commited a terrorist act against the United States of America.

CANADAIN

Name a Canadian terrorist group that commited a terrorist act against the United States of America.


Which one can you name?

7/26/2005 7:00 PM

 

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